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20 February 2013 @ 09:38 pm
Lost 2.23/24 - Live Together, Die Alone  
- Desmond's boat is (almost) exactly the same model my dad had a few years ago (a crane dropped it and he had to get a new one because the hull would have been way too expensive to ever repair properly). This both pleased and disturbed me a little, especially because Desmond reminds me a little bit of my dad in the first place.

- Also, WAS THAT LIBBY HE GOT IT FROM?? WHAT IS HAPPENING!! I won't go on any kind of wikipedia to check (I hardly dare look up actors names!) because I am trying to stay away from spoilers, but that was her right? So she was in the mental hospital with Hurley, and she met Desmond and then she was on the plane and ended up on the island? The coincedences are starting to hurt my head a bit, but I'm loving it.

- And how cute was Desmond?

- Is Penelope's father the same guy who plays King George in Once Upon a Time? IT IS ISN'T IT. Wow. Talk about having a preference for playing shitty parents! You go dude, you're as creepy and scary as ever ;-) I hope we get to see more of him, and considering the final scene, that does seem likely...

- It's good to see Sayid getting back in the game: as much as I hated Shannon's death, I love how they treated it afterwards. She wasn't forgotten by the show, she has been mentioned several times, Sayid was a bit in the background following, clearly not wanting to take part in the activites as he was grieving and we saw him go batshit crazy on Henry in 'One of Us', his love and grief for Shannon coming to a violent conclusion. It was treated as it should. That being said I AM STILL IN DENIAL. Just a little bit. It was good to see him getting back in the thick of the action though. In case you hadn't noticed, I really love Sayid ;-)

- The development in general of the characters have been very well-done and believable imo: Sun and Jin working out their differences to a greater extent (and is someone going to learn Jin English soon? Like, get on that people. It's not the time you lack) and discovering she is pregnant! I'm really happy, except not, because all I see in the future is PAIN and this is a sound analysis based on the two other pregnant people whose been on the island (Danielle and Claire). Then there's Jack, who has become even more ready and determined to take action, and I think is more comfortable in his role as pseudo-leader, which does unfortunately make him clash with Locke in some eps. And then there's the big man himself: Mr. John Locke, who loses his faith and all he thought he believed in, only to ultimately be proven wrong in that as well. My heart is breaking for the man, but I am also frustrated at him: even when he is completely disillusioned, he has to prove that the button is fake. Why not just leave it be? He is still obsessing over it, just in another way now. It is still controlling him. Locke is as much the slave there as Eko, and then he is wrong ohgod. And now dead? Only I'm guessing they aren't, because they're on the S3 disks, ha!

- One character whose development I am not happy about is Charlie, however. I'm too tired to write page up and page down about some of the things I think the writers massively screwed up with him, but I think my main complaint right now is that I just don't get him. I don't understand what he was trying to do when he found Locke crying in the woods, and I don't understand why he's lying to Claire in the last part? Okay, I'll admit it could have been much worse, there were just a lot of parts that really bothered me.

- That being said:

'Charlie! Do you know how they got the hatch door open?'
'No, but if you hum it to me, I can probably play it...'


I actually had to stop the episode because I was laughing so hard at this. Clueless!Charlie is the funniest, sweetest thing ever.

- Henry is well creepy. He's the leader! Of course! Ohgod, that's just... yeah, Sayid should have killed him when he had the chance (I AM SORRY I JUST WROTE THAT but it is kinda true). I'm guessing Henry is not The Man in Black, since (as far as I can understand and remember from the spoiler I stumbled upon years ago), TMB is not human? And I mean, Henry could definitely get hurt like a human (unless he was acting, in which case the Oscar goes to...)

- I... I can't condone or forgive Michael for what he did. It wasn't right, it wasn't moral. But he did it to get his son back. He would do anything for his kid, and I'm... I can understand that. He wanted his son back, and damn yeah, he was going to sacrifice a bunch of people he had hardly known for two months to do that. I'd let the rest of the world burn for the one person I loved too.

- The character-development from Sawyer is good as well. His admission that Jack was somewhat his friend was so genuine that it hurt my soul a lot. And his obvious hurt that Kate and Jack 'got caught in a net'. And then finding out that it was an actual net, haha. I'm still rooting for the two of them, Kate and Sawyer, because the actors have the most amazing chemistry and... and okay he was drugged and wounded and half-unconscious but he said he loved her, and then we don't get to see anything for the rest of the season and I'm kind of loving the slow build? Which means I'll be really dissapointed if this ship crashes before it even gets to set sail.

- 'Live together, die alone' needs to be said in every season finale from now on. I'll be dissapointed if it doesn't!

- 'I think I made your plane crash' ,this is such a horrible thought and it could so easily be something that 'rationally' explained what is happening. Only then there's so many of them meeting before, the randomness of who got on the flight and who didn't, the Black Smoke, the island's 'healing abilities'... I feel like the only answers I've gotten from this season has just left me with more questions. Why and Who and How.

- What was that statue?

- What is the Dharma Initiative's function? The countdown was real, but then there was the seemingly 'social experiments' and now the whole thing's been abandoned, despite there still being someone from the Initiative on the island at the time Desmond gets there? Which is only three years ago. How many other hatches are there?

- Who are 'the Others' really, and what makes them think they're the good guys, considering they go around kidnapping children like every other day? (children and people in general)

- Why Kate, Jack, Sawyer and Hurley particularly? Why let Hurley go? Why trade these four(three) for Walt, who was clearly 'special' - was he not 'special enough'?

- (why does everyone die so suddenly, I'm afraid to start episodes because I never know when I will be safe this shit is not funny anymore)

- Will Sun and the baby be okay? Will Claire and her baby be okay?

- Why does the cover of the S3 case say 'Jacob loves you?' For some reason it just really creeps me out. Don't answer (any of it). I'm just FREAKING OUT A LITTLE OHGOD.
 
 
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captaintish: Lost -- Ben -- goofy lookcaptaintish on February 21st, 2013 03:57 am (UTC)
Yes, that was Libby that Desmond got the boat from. As for her being in the mental hospital with Hurley, well, don't expect to ever really get an answer for that one. There are some questions that never get answered.

As for Jin learning English -- patience! They've only been on the Island for about 2 months.

I love Sayid. I love Desmond. I love Locke. I love Jin and Sun. I LOVE ALL THE CHARACTERS.

And, yay!!! You've reached "Henry Gale from Minnesota." :D :D :D HE IS ONE OF THE BEST CHARACTERS OF ALL TIME.

You're not supposed to know about the Man in Black yet! Just concentrate on the Smoke Monster and Jacob. Yes, "Jacob loves you." is a thing. A big thing. Just wait for it -- there will be a very small reference to it in S3, Ep. 4 or 5, I think. Or 6? I don't remember. But then I think you'll have to wait a while.

LOL, there was a time, when I didn't think anyone would survive the whole show.

I LOVE THE DHARMA INITIATIVE. THEY ARE GROOVY. :D

YOU ARE MAKING ME WANT TO REWATCH THE SHOW!! I'm not sure I'm quite ready for that yet. I HAVE A LOT OF FEELINGS and I'm not sure I've completely made my peace with things yet.....

keep_counting: katelostkeep_counting on February 21st, 2013 12:27 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I figured there were some things we wouldn't get an answer to. I'm trying just not to figure out the 'accidental' meetings and all that, because I think that's a pit I'm never going to get out of again. But I love it!

Oh, it's been almost three months now! ;) haha, I just don't understand why they haven't yet at this point, though of course maybe he should be the one to approach the subject and initiate it: him being able to communicate clearly with the others might save a life one day!

LOVE ALL THE CHARACTERS! No, really, while I do love some more than others, there isn't a single one that hasn't at least sparked a kindling of interest and who I've found dull or boring. SO WELL DONE!

I know I'm not supposed to know about him, but the fact that there were survivors crashing on an island, that they (or some of them) had been 'picked' and there was a Man on the island who was evil and could turn himself into black smoke was all I knew when I started. But I'll focus on the rest! Can't wait to find out who or what Jacob is then, even if it might be a while yet :) (I can be patient, I really can!)

Haha, I still sort of think an atomic bomb will just kill everyone in the end.

I LOVE THE DHARMA INITIATIVE. THEY ARE GROOVY.
IF BY GROOVY YOU MEAN CREEPY, THEN YES THEY ARE VERY GROOVY :P

REWATCH AND RELIVE THE PAIN SO YOU CAN SUPPORT ME AS I EXPERIENCE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME!!
captaintish: Lost -- Yeehaw!captaintish on February 21st, 2013 08:34 pm (UTC)
There are many things you won't get answers to -- it's probably best if you realize that right now. See, I had faith that they would answer everything, and then I got bitterly disappointed. So, like I said earlier, enjoy the ride, and don't worry too much about the destination. (I still have a lot of head-canon explanations for things -- it's fun to speculate!)

Haha, I just remembered a fun little scene coming up for you in Season 3 involving Jin, Sawyer, and English. :D

Oh, my goodness, yes. ALL OF THESE CHARACTERS. They are just so dear to me. And ones that you haven't even been introduced to yet! I love them all so much.

Yes, focus on the Smoke Monster and Jacob. Not saying there's no connection to the MiB..... but he won't appear in that form for quite a while......

An atomic bomb, hmm? Well, I don't know if it would kill them all..... /shifty eyes

GROOVY AND CREEPY. Remember when Hurley and Charlie were hanging out in the Hatch, and they found that old album by Geronimo Jackson? Go look up Geronimo Jackson -- they wrote a great song called "Dharma Lady" -- very groovy. :D

I'M SCARED TO WATCH IT AND FALL IN LOVE ALL OVER AGAIN, WHEN I STILL HAVEN'T FULLY RESOLVED MY FEELINGS ABOUT SEASON 6. I HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS.
keep_counting: katelostkeep_counting on February 22nd, 2013 03:41 pm (UTC)
I guess I'll go for the mindset of 'it's for the sake of the story' instead of 'mysteries must be solved! right now!', because then I would have honestly given up on the show already, considering the number of answer we've gotten are, oh, right, zero. I think (at least this far) the characters and story-arcs and acting in general more than make up for unanswered questions :)

I'll look forward to that scene! :D

AND OMG THAT IS SO AWESOME :D

(doooo it, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!!!)
captaintish: Lost -- Jincaptaintish on February 23rd, 2013 05:57 am (UTC)
ARGH, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF I CAN. I STILL HAVE A LOT OF FEELINGS. But I can do the next best thing and link you to some of my reaction posts from back in the day. It looks like I started doing specific episode reactions in Season 4. (I first got on LJ in 2007, and I wrote some about Lost, but not much in depth)

I just went back in my archives to find some of my early posts about Lost. I found this one that I wrote while I was waiting for Season 4 to start. Nothing spoilery. Oh, how young and naive I was! I had such faith that all my questions would be answered! Ah, good times.

But seriously, yes, the characters and story-arcs definitely make up for the lack of answers. (Not that we never got ANY answers, I don't want you to get the wrong impression). Emotionally, the show was so, so satisfying, and I love it so much. Argh, my emotions about Lost -- they are complicated. :)

[fʏʃ]: Lost - Desmondfueschgast on February 22nd, 2013 12:21 am (UTC)
Yes, that was Libby.

Heeee, you like Desmond. :oD

and is someone going to learn Jin English soon?
Hasn't Sherlock taught you that it's "teach"? Tut tut. :oP

I forgot what it was that Charlie lied to Claire about and I just played the episodes again, but didn't properly pay attention. But the thing with Locke was about Charlie still being angry at him, because of Claire and Charlie.

Since the song How They Got the Hatch Door Open does exist yet, Charlie should write it and put it on a CD together with Monster Kills the Pilot and his other songs.

Seeing as that statue had only 4 toes, it's clearly from The Simpsons.

Why does the cover of the S3 case say 'Jacob loves you?'
Because Jacob loves you.
keep_counting: katelostkeep_counting on February 22nd, 2013 03:45 pm (UTC)
Desmond just suddenly burst into the show and was another of those amazing characters. Getting his back-story gave him so much depth, while still maintaining the impression we got of him from the first few eps of S2. It was amazing.

Hasn't Sherlock taught you that it's "teach"? Tut tut. :oP
I'm going to hide behind the excuse that English isn't my first language now xD

Haha, I'd forgotten 'Monster Kills the Pilot'. I really wish they'd done something fun like that. Do you know of any bands who've made tribute-songs to the show, or has references in them? That would be cool.

Seeing as that statue had only 4 toes, it's clearly from The Simpsons.
I am laughing so hard and getting flashbacks to your bunny!Moriarty picspams: way to make a scary thing funny Maria! :D well done!

Because Jacob loves you
hahahaha, THAT'S NOT FUNNY :( *hides*
[fʏʃ]: Lost - Desmondfueschgast on February 25th, 2013 01:34 am (UTC)
No idea if there are are any fan-bands like there are for Doctor Who and Harry Potter. :o(

Always happy to make you laugh. And to be thought of as funny. :oD

And remember: Jacob loves you! /trollolol
Dammit, almost wrote Jesus there. Couldn't they have chosen a name that doesn't start with J and has more or less than 2 syllables?


Argh, why do I keep failing at closing tags? Why do I always make it the italics tag? Yay for the edit button!

Edited at 2013-02-25 01:35 am (UTC)
keep_counting: katelostkeep_counting on February 25th, 2013 04:56 pm (UTC)
You make me laugh and smile a lot ^^

You're getting worse than Mofftiss!
(ahahahaaaa xD that could have gotten weird if you'd written that)

[fʏʃ]: Lostfueschgast on March 8th, 2013 11:05 pm (UTC)
Jacob loves you. :oP
:oD

You're getting worse than Mofftiss!
:O ... I have to admit, I'm starting to understand why they like being like this. Sometimes it's just too much fun.
keep_counting: rosetylerkeep_counting on March 9th, 2013 08:16 am (UTC)
Re: Jacob loves you. :oP
This is getting insane! is Jacob MIB?? Oh god, he probably isn't.
[fʏʃ]fueschgast on March 14th, 2013 10:15 pm (UTC)
Re: Jacob loves you. :oP
Nah, he's the MIC (Man in the Invisibility Cloak), obviously.
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